Being Alive!

In the previous episode, we walked with Walt Whitman down the open roads of America, hearing the chorus of ordinary lives. Whitman’s poetry celebrated the sweep of America, the chorus of countless lives, and the boundless possibilities of freedom. Across the ocean and slightly later in time, Dostoevsky turned his gaze inward, exploring the shadowed recesses of the human heart. Whereas Whitman’s lines embraced the world, Dostoevsky’s narratives probe the tensions, doubts, and moral struggles that define our inner lives. In moving from Whitman to Dostoevsky, we travel from the expansive optimism of a young nation to the intense psychological and ethical landscapes of nineteenth-century Russia—a shift that reminds us just how varied, yet universally human, the work of great writers can be.

And right now, I am standing in front of a wax figure of FYODOR Dostoevsky-or at least that's what the title on the nameplate here says.

Yes, Mr. Barley, I am most definitely Fyodor Dostoyevsky. Some might call me one of the towering figures of 19th-century literature. I was Born in Moscow into a middle-class family, AND faced hardship early: my mother died when I was young, and my father was a rather strict and harsh figure. I originally trained as an engineer, but my passion for literature led me to the literary scene in St. Petersburg.

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In the previous episode, we walked with Walt Whitman down the open roads of America, hearing the chorus of ordinary lives. Whitman’s poetry celebrated the sweep of America, the chorus of countless lives, and the boundless possibilities of freedom. Across the ocean and slightly later in time, Dostoevsky turned his gaze inward, exploring the shadowed recesses of the human heart. Whereas Whitman’s lines embraced the world, Dostoevsky’s narratives probe the tensions, doubts, and moral struggles that define our inner lives. In moving from Whitman to Dostoevsky, we travel from the expansive optimism of a young nation to the intense psychological and ethical landscapes of nineteenth-century Russia—a shift that reminds us just how varied, yet universally human, the work of great writers can be.

And right now, I am standing in front of a wax figure of FYODOR Dostoevsky-or at least that's what the title on the nameplate here says.

Yes, Mr. Barley, I am most definitely Fyodor Dostoyevsky. Some might call me one of the towering figures of 19th-century literature. I was Born in Moscow into a middle-class family, AND faced hardship early: my mother died when I was young, and my father was a rather strict and harsh figure. I originally trained as an engineer, but my passion for literature led me to the literary scene in St. Petersburg.

Mr. Dostoevsky, from what I understand your life was marked by intense personal struggle.

Yes, Mr. Bartley. I was arrested in 1849 for involvement in a group promoting liberal ideas and was sentenced to death— On December 22, 1849, I stood on a frozen parade ground in St. Petersburg. My fellow prisoners and myself were blindfolded, tied to stakes, and told we had only moments left to live. The firing squad raised their rifles. - and we felt that we only had a few seconds to live …And then—at the very last instant—the sentence was commuted. Death was postponed and my sentence was commuted at the last moment to imprisonment in a Siberian labor camp.  Life returned, with an almost unbearable intensity.

Mr. Dostoevsky, I can't even imagine such a traumatic situation.

Yes, such a situation is beyond words. Soon afterwards, I wrote to my brother:

“When I look back on my past and think how much time I wasted on nothing, how much time I lost in futilities, errors, laziness, incapacity to live; how I did not value it, how many times I sinned against my heart and spirit—my heart bleeds. Life is a gift, life is happiness, every minute can be an eternity of happiness.”

I firmly believe that years later, I transformed that moment of borrowed time into art. In The Idiot, Prince Myshkin recalls the thoughts of a man awaiting execution:

“He said that those five minutes seemed to him an endless span, a vast wealth of time… He remembered having noticed a church cupola gleaming in the sunlight. He gazed and gazed at it; he thought of how he would look at it again afterwards. He knew that he would have time to think of a thousand things in those last minutes… Yet he lived. And now he declares that there is nothing more real than this experience, nothing more profound.”

This—this brush with death, this awareness of the fragile brilliance of every moment—shaped my entire vision of humanity. It is there in Crime and Punishment, in The Brothers Karamazov, and in the broken, radiant figure of Prince Myshkin. I strongly believe, whether I realized it or not, that I would spend the rest of my life trying to prove what eye felt so vividly on that parade ground: that life, even in suffering, is a sacred gift.

This leads me to my next question Mr. Dostoevsky. What do you feel is your importance as a writer?

AH, Mr. Bartley, I believe that as a writer my importance was in my ability to probe the human psyche. I believe that I was a pioneer in exploring moral ambiguity, and psychological realism. 

Mr. Dostoevsky I quite agree–your novels often feel like case studies in human consciousness, combining philosophical inquiry with storytelling.

Mr. Bartley, thank you for your observations. And like most writers, I often used my personal experiences and feelings to develop my characters and their emotions.  For example, in The Brothers Karamazov – Smerdyakov expresses his feelings regarding death and fear - 

“I stood there, knowing that my life hung by a thread, and yet a curious calm spread over me. Perhaps it was madness, or perhaps it was the recognition that in facing death, all pretenses fell away. Nothing mattered except the raw, unbearable truth of existence in that instant.”

Mr. Dostoevsky, I can see where this reflects your mental state when you personally faced a firing squad.

Precisely, Mr. Bartley–and in my novel Crime and Punishment, the character of Raskolnikov describes his near-collapse.

“I thought I was going mad. The walls, the air, the very earth seemed to close in. A moment ago I had been plotting, calculating, sure of myself—and now, confronted with the shadow of my own end, I felt utterly exposed, trembling under the weight of consequences I could neither escape nor understand.”

Today there are critics who say that this vividly illustrates the existential terror that you experienced at the execution square.

And permit me, Mr. Bartley to point out this brief section from the Idiot, where I write about the character of Prince Myshkin facing a crisis\

“A strange quiet fell over me, and yet my heart raced as if it would tear itself from my chest. Every sound, every face, every movement seemed amplified, charged with meaning I could not name. And in that unbearable stillness, I felt the immense vulnerability of being alive, and the fragile miracle of surviving another moment.”

Mr. Dostoevsky, Yes this passage does show an interior intensity of confronting extreme fear, but could you tell us a bit more about your personal life - which I assume was a bit more peaceful.

Such peacefulness, Mr. Bartley, it's not necessarily an accurate assumption. You see, I was to eventually have three wives - and the relationships were deeply revealing of my personal turbulence, emotional intensity, and the way my personal life fed into my writing.

Mr. Dostoevsky could you be a bit more specific regarding your relationships? I really do think if that would be helpful to our listeners.

Certainly, Mr. Bartley.

First there was Maria, the widow of a family friend.  Our marriage was marked by financial instability and ill health. My admittedlycompulsive gambling and debts caused tension. Maria suffered from tuberculosis, and her declining health added emotional strain. Our union was short and tragic, ending with her death. I believe that early experience of loss, dependence, and emotional vulnerability influenced my recurring literary themes of human suffering, compassion, and moral struggle.\

That is certainly logical Mr. Dostoevsky.

Polina Suslova was not a wife but became my lover - she was an intense and independent-minded woman. Our relationship was extremely passionate, very tumultuous, and psychologically complex. Polina’s strong personality clashed with my own compulsions and insecurities. Some individuals might say that such a liaison highlights my recurring attraction to women who are both inspiring and destabilizing.

Did you marry again Mr. Dostoevsky?

Mr. Bartley I most certainly did, and my second wife was Anna Snitkina. She was 25 years younger and initially worked as my stenographer. She helped me complete The Gambler under extreme pressure to pay off gambling debts. Our marriage was intellectually and emotionally supportive. Anna managed finances, shielded me from creditors, and provided stability. She became my devoted companion until my earthly death in 1881, allowing me to focus on writing later works such as The Brothers Karamazov. And most notably, she worked tirelessly to stabilize my finances and manage my obligations. She also organized manuscripts, protected copyrights, corresponded with publishers, and ensured posthumous publication of my works.

So Mr. Dostoevsky, one might say that she dealt with your literary legacy.

Precisely, Mr. Bartley, Anna’s steadiness contrasts with the chaos of Maria and the intensity of Polina, emphasizing the spectrum of turbulence versus stability in my personal life.

Now I did have one extremely unfortunate characteristic, and that was my obsession with gambling.Even in remote, harsh circumstances, it always seemed that my mind was preoccupied with risk, chance, and compulsion—the very essence of my gambling obsession. For me, gambling was more than a vice; it was a lens into human desire, obsession, and moral tension. Whether at the roulette table or deprived of it entirely, I was always spinning the wheel in my mind—testing impulse, luck, and conscience.”

Note this section from my novel The Gambler - words that describe the feelings of almost any gambler.

“Every time the ball spun, I convinced myself that luck had turned. I was sure the next moment would bring victory, that the wheel would bend to my will. And yet, it never did.”

From what I understand, you did have epilepsy, and unfortunately there were no anticonvulsants to control your seizures.

Yes Mr. Bartley, I had epilepsy, and this condition is definitely reflected in my writing. Epilepsy in my work is not just a physical ailment—it becomes a literary device, a lens through which I attempt to explore consciousness, crisis, and transcendence. Prince Myshkin in The Idiot is perhaps the most famous epileptic character in literature. Myshkin’s seizures are intertwined with his insight, sensitivity, and moral perception, suggesting that extreme human experiences—like seizures—can offer unique windows into truth and empathy.  

Note the description of an epileptic seizure experienced by Prince Myshkin in The Idiot

He had fallen in an epileptic fit.

As is well known, these fits occur instantaneously. The face,

especially the eyes, become terribly disfigured, convulsions seize the

limbs, a terrible cry breaks from the sufferer, a wail from which

everything human seems to be blotted out, so that it is impossible to

believe that the man who has just fallen is the same who emitted the

dreadful cry. It seems more as though some other being, inside the

stricken one, had cried. Many people have borne witness to this

impression; and many cannot behold an epileptic fit without a feeling

of mysterious terror and dread.

The prince’s body slipped convulsively down the stone steps till it rested at

the bottom. Very soon, in five minutes or so, he was discovered, and a

crowd collected around him.

A pool of blood on the steps near his head gave rise to grave fears.

Was it a case of accident, or had there been a crime? It was, however,

soon recognized as a case of epilepsy, and identification and proper

measures for restoration followed one another.

The sufferer was immediately taken to his room, and though he partially regained consciousness, he lay long in a semi-dazed condition.

Mr. Bartley, I must admit that I often used epileptic fits to symbolize moments of heightened spiritual or psychological awareness. These seizures gave me a way to dramatize the fragility, vulnerability, and extraordinary insight of human life.

SO, Mr. Dostoevsky, it seems that in your work epilepsy is not just a medical condition– Would that be correct to assume?

Yes, Mr. Bartley, I think it is definitely fair to say that in my work epilepsy is not just a med just a medical condition – it is a vehicle for exploring the borderlands between reason and emotion, sanity and madness, mortality and even transcendence.

Mr. Dostoyevsky, is such a treatment similar across all your works?

Far from it, Mr. Bartley, I treat epilepsy different in their Brothers Karamazov then I do in my book The Idiot.

Why is that Mr. Dostoevsky?

I wanted to use the contrast to express basically my evolving exploration of consciousness, morality, and human vulnerability.

Could you explain what you mean, Mr. Dostoevsky?

Certainly, Mr. Bartley, I treat epilepsy different in the brothers KARAMA ZOV than I do in The Idiot.

Mr. Dostoevsky, how was that?

Mr. Bartley, in The Idiot, Prince Myshkin’s epilepsy is central to his character. It occurs unpredictably and is tied to his extreme sensitivity, empathy, and almost Christ-like innocence. The seizures often coincide with heightened emotional or moral moments, suggesting that his condition opens him to a deeper, intuitive understanding of people.

So, Mr. Dostoevsky, what are you using epilepsy here to express?

Epilepsy in The Idiot functions as a literary lens: it frames Myshkin as “otherworldly,” simultaneously fragile and spiritually perceptive. The fits are both a literal affliction and a symbol of his moral and emotional intensity. In The Brothers Karamazov, the idea of “fits” is symbolic and psychological, focusing less on physicality and more on the chaos of conscience, passion, and moral responsibility. I hope that subtle distance came across.

I conversely, Mr. Bartley, in The Brothers Karamazov, I explicitly gave the character of Smerdyakov epilepsy. Unlike Prince Myshkin, Smerdyakov’s seizures are tied to cynicism, calculation, and moral corruption, rather than innocence and spiritual insight.

Mr. Dostoevsky, that is quite a difference.

Precisely, Mr. Bartley. Smerdyakov is sly, resentful, and manipulative; his epileptic fits highlight his instability and hint at a deeper, almost pathological intensity. The seizures underscore a sense of unpredictable danger, emphasizing that his moral and emotional life is fraught, self-serving, and disconnected from compassion.

Note how this contrasts sharply with Myshkin, whose epilepsy enhances empathy and moral vision. With Smerdyakov, epilepsy becomes a literary marker of moral dysfunction and the darker extremes of human psychology, rather than moral illumination.

So, in short: Mr. Dostoyevsky - you use the same condition to explore opposite poles of human experience—the “heightened moral perception” of Myshkin versus the “cold, destructive instability” of Smerdyakov.  In other words, unlike Myshkin in The Idiot, Smerdyakov’s epilepsy is not tied to moral insight or spiritual sensitivity—it marks instability, cynicism, and a much darker psychological edge.

Yes, Mr. Bartley, in my sometimes complex novels, I like to think I was a master of expressing psychological tension - for example In, The Brothers Karamazov, Smerdyakov reflects upon his life -

“I stood there, knowing that my life hung by a thread, and yet a curious calm spread over me. Perhaps it was madness, or perhaps it was the recognition that in facing death, all pretenses fell away. Nothing mattered except the raw, unbearable truth of existence in that instant.”

And note the psychological tension from my novel The Gambler - 

“I could not tear myself away from the wheel. Even when I knew the risk, even when I knew ruin was near, I felt a force within me that would not be denied. I was its prisoner, and yet I followed willingly.”

And the character of Raskolnikov in Crime and Punishment reflects:

“I thought I was going mad. The walls, the air, the very earth seemed to close in. A moment ago I had been plotting, calculating, sure of myself—and now, confronted with the shadow of my own end, I felt utterly exposed, trembling under the weight of consequences I could neither escape nor understand.”

Thank you very much Mr. Dostoevsky - you are a master of the human psyche.

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