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What Were the Inklings?

George Bartley Season 6 Episode 639

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What Were the Inklings?


Today’s episode deals with four people instead of one individual. 

They are often classified as one group because they were a band of university friends who argued, challenged, and inspired each other—the Inklings.”  You see, the Inklings were largely a group of Oxford professors, writers, and thinkers who met to read aloud, debate, and challenge one another. 

First, I'd like to concentrate on Mr. CS Lewis. Is what I have been saying a fair way to express it.
 
Yes Mr. Bartley, when you and your audience think of me today, you probably often picture The Chronicles of Narnia, or my rational, graceful Christian apologetics. But to really understand me, you need to see me inside a unique circle of writers and thinkers: the Inklings—a group that met in Oxford in the 1930s and ’40s to read aloud, critique, and sometimes spar over each other’s works. 

That is why this episode is about the group called the inklings

And Mr. Bartley, I do believe that my love of myth, the study of language, its history, and how it shapes thought—shaped the group’s imagination. JRR Tolkien didn’t just make up languages for fun; he spent hours analyzing old tongues to make Elvish and other Middle-earth languages feel authentic. He spent so long lecturing me on the difference between a fairytale and a proper myth that I joked that I might need a dictionary just to keep up!

Then there was Charles Williams, a poet, novelist, and theologian with a mystical streak that pushed me to explore the spiritual depths of story. Williams could be so intense that the others sometimes left a meeting feeling like they’d just survived a philosophical thunderstorm—but I secretly loved the challenge.

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Today’s episode deals with four people instead of one individual. they are often classified as one group because they were a band of university friends who argued, challenged, and inspired each other—the Inklings.”  You see, the Inklings were largely a group of Oxford professors, writers, and thinkers who met to read aloud, debate, and challenge one another. 

First, I'd like to concentrate on Mr. CS Lewis. Is what I have been saying a fair way to express it.

Yes Mr. Bartley, when you and your audience think of me today, you probably often picture The Chronicles of Narnia, or my rational, graceful Christian apologetics. But to really understand me, you need to see me inside a unique circle of writers and thinkers: the Inklings—a group that met in Oxford in the 1930s and ’40s to read aloud, critique, and sometimes spar over each other’s works. 

That is why this episode is about the group called the inklings

And Mr. Bartley, I do believe that my love of myth, the study of language, its history, and how it shapes thought—shaped the group’s imagination. JRR Tolkien didn’t just make up languages for fun; he spent hours analyzing old tongues to make Elvish and other Middle-earth languages feel authentic. He spent so long lecturing me on the difference between a fairytale and a proper myth that I joked that I might need a dictionary just to keep up!

Then there was Charles Williams, a poet, novelist, and theologian with a mysti cal streak that pushed me to explore the spiritual depths of story. Williams could be so intense that the others sometimes left a meeting feeling like they’d just survived a philosophical thunderstorm—but I secretly loved the challenge.

And from what I understand there was another member of the inklings who is not as well known among the public.

Yes, Mr. Bartley - that would be Owen Barfield, the “philosophical Inkling,” whose ideas about language, consciousness, and participation nudged me toward thinking differently about imagination itself. Barfield had a habit of turning even casual discussions into deep dives on consciousness and the evolution of human thought—so be careful what you say in front of him!

So Mr. Lewis, how would you describe the creative process of the group?

Tolkien challenged my logic, Williams stirred my spiritual imagination, and Barfield opened my mind to the evolving nature of human consciousness. The result? Stories that still enchant us, essays that still persuade us, and a reminder that even genius sometimes needs a little peer pressure… the literary kind.

So how would you describe your contribution S?

Despite all the intense debates, I believed that I could always lighten the room—once reading aloud a scene so absurd that Tolkien nearly fell out of his chair laughing. And these meetings didn’t happen in some lofty lecture hall—they gathered in pubs like The Eagle and Child, sipping tea or ale, and letting ideas bounce off the walls… or across the table with a bit of literary mischief.

Mr. Lewis, how did religion fit into your growth as an individual and as a writer?

I had been a rationalist atheist in my youth, but the Inklings’ discussions, debates, and shared readings pulled me toward faith, story, and myth in ways that would define my career. With their influence, I believe that I expanded from scholarly essays into works of imaginative literature—from The Screwtape Letters to The Chronicles of Narnia.

So let me go over that again - here you have the Inklings - a group of Oxford professors who were also writers, poets, and thinkers reading aloud, debating, and sometimes sparring over ideas. At the center were Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien, whose love of myth and the use of ancient languages shaped Lewis’s imagination. Then there was Charles Williams, a mystic novelist whose work was as intense as it was morally probing, pushing Lewis to explore the spiritual depths of story. And don’t forget Owen Barfield, the “philosophical Inkling,” whose ideas about language, consciousness, and participation nudged you toward thinking differently about imagination itself. Would that be a fair assessment?

Mr. Bartley, I think that is an excellent summary. And together, we created a crucible for creativity. The Inklings weren’t just friends—we were co-conspirators in a quest to blend scholarship, story, and spirituality. Without them, there might be no Narnia, no Screwtape Letters, and I know that I would have been very very different - even the most solitary imagination sometimes needs a little literary mischief—and a lot of friendship—to shine.

Mr. Lewis, I think it might be very helpful to look at each of the inklings individually.

I quite agree. Owen Barfield was a British philosopher, author, and poet. He was a close friend of mine from our student days at Oxford, and he is often considered the intellectual foundation of the Inklings’ more philosophical discussions.

Barfield is best known for his writings on language, consciousness, and the evolution of human thought. Key works include:

Poetic Diction (1928) – explores how language shapes perception and imagination

Saving the Appearances (1957) – discusses how human consciousness evolves, as well the relationship between perception and reality

History in English Words (1926) – traces the development of English words to understand cultural and conceptual shifts

Mr. Lewis, that sounds like Pretty heavy stuff!

Pardon me Mr. Bartley?

Never mind.

Barfield introduced me to the idea of “original participation”, the notion that humans once experienced a more direct connection with the world, and that consciousness evolves over time. These ideas shaped my approach to imagination, myth, and theology. And while Tolkien focused on myth and Williams on spiritual-mystical storytelling, Barfield offered the bridge between imagination, philosophy, and language, making the Inklings’ discussions richer and more nuanced. Barfield’s exploration of how language and consciousness interact helped me think differently about how stories can convey truth, not just entertain. In short, Owen Barfield was the Inkling who reminded everyone that how we perceive and use language shapes not just stories, but our understanding of reality itself. His ideas quietly undergirded much of my imaginative and theological work.

Mr. Lewis, What about Charles Williams?

Charles Williams was a British poet, novelist, theologian, and literary critic. Unlike Tolkien or myself, he wasn’t an academic professor—he worked in publishing, eventually becoming a key editor at the Oxford University Press.

What writings is he best known for?

Williams is best known for his metaphysical novels—sometimes called supernatural thrillers—which blend theology, morality, and the fantastical. 

Key works include: Descent into Hell (1937), All Hallows’ Eve (1945), and War in Heaven (1930)

Mr. Bartley, These novels explore complex ideas: the nature of evil, the spiritual realities behind the material world, and the mysterious ways human choices and divine forces intersect. He also wrote poetry and literary criticism, and he had a lifelong fascination with mysticism, symbolism, and theology, which made his work intense, morally probing, and sometimes unsettling.

Specifically, what influence did he have upon  your writings?

Williams pushed me to consider the spiritual and moral dimensions of story in ways that Tolkien, as a mythologist, didn’t always do. He brought a kind of moral urgency and metaphysical depth that shaped my imagination. Williams also added a mystical and theological dimension to our conversations. While Tolkien focused on the structure of myth, and Barfield on the evolution of consciousness, Williams was the one reminding everyone that story could be a conduit for spiritual truth. His blending of fantasy, theology, and moral philosophy is extremely unique, and gives his work a kind of haunting, otherworldly resonance. In short, Williams is the Inkling who challenged the group to take imagination seriously as a tool for understanding the unseen, the moral, and the divine. Without him, all of our fiction might have been less spiritually adventurous.

But , Mr. Bartley,before we go any further,  I want to emphasize why Charles Williams often stands apart from the more familiar Inklings and is often seen as somewhat different.

Yes Mr. Lewis, it would be very interesting to see quite Charles Williams was unique.

Mr. Bartley,While Tolkien and myself were grounded in broadly Christian frameworks, Williams was deeply involved in esoteric and mystical Christian thought. He was fascinated with sacramental theology, occult symbolism, and ideas such as co-inherence, which he explored in both his fiction and essays.

Please continue, Mr. TOLKIEN.

His work had a more intense spiritual and sometimes unsettling quality, mixing magic, theology, and moral philosophy in ways the other Inklings did not.

What were his novels like?

Charles Williams wrote “supernatural thrillers” or “fantastic novels” that combined suspense, crime, and mystical elements. These were often more psychologically and morally complex than my allegories or Tolkien’s mythic epics.

Could you give us an example?

The novels of Charles Williams, such as Descent into Hell or The Place of the Lion, have a tense, almost cinematic quality and a morally intricate universe where spiritual reality intersects with the mundane—a style distinct from the sweeping myth-making of Tolkien or my relatively clear allegorical clarity. And it must be noted that Charles Williams had a somewhat enigmatic, intense personality. He was a poet, a literary critic, and a practicing lawyer at one point, which contributed to his highly disciplined yet idiosyncratic thinking.

That certainly makes sense.

Charles Williams was deeply interested in secretive and mystical currents of history, including esoteric Christianity, which sometimes made him feel “other” to the group’s more conventional academic and literary pursuits. And whereas Tolkien and Lewis often influenced each other in more direct literary or narrative ways, Williams’s contributions were more spiritual and philosophical. He encouraged the Inklings to think about moral and mystical realities underpinning human choices and creativity.

Mr. Lewis, how were his ideas received by the group?

Mr. Bartley,I think the best way of expressing it is to simply say that some members found his intensity and unconventional ideas inspiring; while others found them difficult or alien.

Mr. Lewis, it almost sounds like you're saying that Charles Williams had a strong Mystic influence.

Precisely, Mr. Bartley. Williams was the “mystic Inkling,” the one whose fiction and philosophy stretched into realms of spiritual symbolism and moral complexity that weren’t central for Tolkien or myself. He added a sort of esoteric edge to the group—a constant reminder that the Inklings weren’t just about myth or narrative but about wrestling with profound spiritual truths.

Mr. Lewis,Your description of his personality is fascinating

Mr. Bartley, Mr. Williams was intense, enigmatic, and deeply interested in esoteric Christian thought.  He challenged the group to see beyond ordinary storytelling into the moral and spiritual forces at play in human life. In short, CharlesWilliams was the Inklings’ wild card: less conventional, more mystical, and always stirring the waters of imagination and faith.

Oh yes Mr. Lewis I must ask about an individual who is probably the most well-known of the inklings today– John Ronald TOLKIEN.

Mr. Tokien was a British linguist, and professor at Oxford. He was also one of the founders of the Inklings and is probably best known as the author of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings trilogy.  He was also a noted philologist.

Mr. Lewis, What is a philologist? 

A philologist is - someone who studies language in historical and literary contexts, and the approach is more than just grammar or vocabulary—it involves looking at how languages develop over time, how words change meaning, and what texts reveal about the people and cultures that produced them.

Can you give me some examples?

Certainly Mr. Bartley–philologists Compare ancient manuscripts to understand how a story or language evolved, study the history of words and grammar, and examine literature to see how language reflects culture, thought, and history. J.R.R. Tolkien didn’t just invent languages like Elvish for fun—he studied Old English, Finnish, and Welsh, among others, and used that knowledge to make his fictional languages feel real, consistent, and culturally rich.

Mr. Lewis– Today Mr. TOLKEIN is most famous for The Hobbit– A children's fantasy adventure that introduced the world to middle earth - The Lord of the Rings– an epic trilogy consisting of (The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, The Return of the King) that has become one of the most influential works of 20th-century literature

Yes Mr. Bartley, Tolkien’s genius was his creation of an entire mythology: detailed languages (such as Elvish), histories, maps, and cultures for Middle-earth. He didn’t just write stories—he built a living, breathing world. The Lord of the Rings in particular is celebrated for its epic narrative, moral complexity, and exploration of friendship, courage, and sacrifice.

Mr. Lewis, from what you have been saying it appears that the inklings had a tremendous effect upon it's members.

Yes Mr. Bartley, and let me point out that Tolkien’s deep study of languages and ancient myths directly influenced his writing. His skill in crafting believable languages, histories, and cultures made Middle-earth uniquely immersive. While Williams explored the spiritual and Barfield the philosophical, Tolkien showed how myth and story structure could carry moral and cultural weight. The Lord of the Rings shaped modern fantasy literature like nothing else. Its themes of heroism, temptation, and hope resonate across generations, and it gave the Inklings model of how deeply a story can engage the imagination.

So there is no doubt that the inklings influenced world literature, but how did the members of the inkling directly specifically influence your writing style or content?

I believe that Tolkien’s meticulous approach to myth, language, and world-building challenged me to think more rigorously about narrative and moral structure. Reading Tolkien’s drafts aloud sparked debates about character, plot, and the “inner logic” of a story, showing the group how imagination could carry both intellectual and emotional weight.

Mr. Lewis, Could you be a little bit more specific?

Certainly, In the Oxford gatherings of the Inklings, Tolkien would read drafts aloud, sparking debates about plot, character, and the “inner logic” of a story. He was the group’s master world-builder, the one reminding everyone that myth and story structure can carry both moral and emotional weight.

The Lord of the Rings is more than a fantasy adventure. It’s a tale of courage and friendship that has inspired generations of readers and writers.

We have discussed TOLKIEN, Williams and Barfield as members of the inklings. But I would like to devote the following episode to  CS Lewis.

Thank you for listening to all of imagination.

This is George Bartley.